 |
| Recent Updates |
***
March 11th
Exactly 17 years ago today!
Dr. Groo, Phantom 45, Justin Tewn, MC Reality, and MC Blackeye @ High Life - March 11, 1995 (Chicago)
***
February 22nd
Phantom 45 - Lethal Dose (Dub Shack Exclusive version) 1994
Phantom 45 - Lethal Dose (Chicago Hardcore Authority version) 1994
***
February 20th
70+ mixtape rips have been added to the Mixtape Archive. Click here to view the complete list of updates!
***
January 29th
16 new magazines have been added to the collection inc. The Scene, Massive, Jamai, Junga Vibez, DJ Mag, The Face, Mixmag, and Tha Pride. Click here to view the complete list of updates!
***
January 25th
Ry-N & Snuggles on Dubshack Radio (1998)
Ry-N & Casper on Dubshack Radio (1998)
Kid Entropy on Dubshack Radio (1998)
Glyde on Dubshack Radio (1998)
3D on Dubshack Radio (1998)
Unity - This Is Our Music (1998)
Thad - Fobia Tech (1997)
Tech Itch @ The Seminar (Chicago)
Smile - Step Up (1997)
Gru-V - Raw Elements VII (1996)
DJ LP - We Jus Ride D Ridim (1996)
***
January 18th
26 Strictly Jungle 89.3 fm tapes from 1996-1999 have been added. DJs include Snuggles, Slak, 3D, Casper, Ry-N, and Jeffee. Click here for the full list!
***
December 19th
Generator Vol. 2 Issue 9 (1995) feat. DJ Crystl, Photek, Randall, Lemon D, Joey Beltram, and more
R.A.W. - RAWs Revenge
Method One - Midnight Sounds (1997)
E-Sassin - Dreams And Nightmares (1996)
Snuggles on Strictly Jungle 89.3 fm - November 22, 1996
Snuggles, Capsule, & Dischord with MC Brace on Strictly Jungle 89.3 - 1997
Snuggles on Dubshack Radio 92.7 fm - 1998
***
December 14th
Eternity #28 (1995) feat. United Dance / Impact Records, Back 2 Basics, DJ Sy, Darren Jay, and more
DJ 3D on Strictly Jungle 89.3 fm (1996)
Casper & Slak on Strictly Jungle 89.3 fm (1997)
Ry-N & Kid Entropy on Dubshack Radio 92.7 fm (1998)
Ry-N on Strictly Jungle 89.3 fm (1999)
***
December 8th
JJ Jellybean & MC Blackeye @ Brockout! 101 (1999)
Curious? - Futuristic Funk (1998)
Dieselboy @ The Freight Yard (1995)
Phil Free Art - Mo Bounce 4 D Ounce (1996)
***
December 1st
Prestige Magazine #1 (1994) feat. Lennie D Ice, MC ID, Dillinja, Kings of The Jungle, Kemistry & Storm, MC Rage, and more
Total Kaos - The Future Vol. 1 (1996) *Tape Pack* feat. Andy C, Bryan G, Grooverider, JJ Frost, L Double, Randall, Ray Keith, and DJ SS
Phantom 45 on Strictly Jungle 89.3 fm - 1996
DJ 3D on Dubshack Radio 92.7 fm - 1998 (First Show)
1.8.7 - Dis Sound (promo)
unknown - Hardcore Junglism
|
|
| Author |
RE: THE BEST OF THE NEW SCHOOL |
The_Jungledon
Member
Posts: 118
Location: Derby UK
Joined: 23.06.06 |
|
Sweet as OJ |
|
| Author |
RE: THE BEST OF THE NEW SCHOOL |
djleftoverz
Member
Posts: 82
Joined: 12.06.06 |
|
while i can believe bizzy b influenced squarepusher i find it had to belive equinox did.
see here
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Squarepusher
vs here
[url]http://www.discogs.com/artist/Equinox+(3)[/url]
and i (personally) would assume that if a person wants to work with someone they had gained some of their influences from them, even if it is only liking their music.
and you did say although i can't be bothered finding the exact quote, that US were gaining influences from people such as squarepusher, where that had no place in the UK scene.
but this argument could go on forever, i'll like wwhat i like and you like what you like, nuff said.
i don't actually like acid rain that much, ikt's another oldskool tune i like. may get acid rain though the breaks don't flow nearly as well as soundmurderer and sk-1's.
argue this as much as you want, i can no longer be bothered as i can see that it will get me no where to try and convince you.
and keep in mind that almost everything i own is from the uk, but almost all my new stuff isn't |
|
|
| Author |
RE: THE BEST OF THE NEW SCHOOL |
mirage
Member
Posts: 510
Location: Chi
Joined: 29.05.06 |
|
just came across this post, good lookin out OJ. Have you caught Gridlok - break the system yet? peepin it now. Good lookin out mate. 
my aim = mirage
my email = [email protected]
my schlong = small
www.myspace.com/welldamnryan |
 
|
| Author |
RE: THE BEST OF THE NEW SCHOOL |
BurnRate
Administrator
Posts: 773
Location: United Kingdom of Jungle
Joined: 26.08.06 |
|
Sorry to butt into your conversation guys, but I wouldn't be OJ without adding my 2 cents. And this aint an argument, it's a learning curve.... 
The amen break is one of the most widely used drum breaks ever. Maybe the artists in question got all their influence from The Winstons? Or maybe it was NWA? lol
Equinox may not have produced many tracks during the 90's, and he's certainly not a main pioneering producer from that period as he readily admits himself. He's quite young actually. (Although he did DJ during that period on the underground, I had a couple of tapes in my long lost shoebox.) He was still a part of the whole evolution of jungle growing up with a mentor like Bizzy B in a genuine junglist environment, and definitely is a big part of jungle/d&b now.
Squarepusher used the ideas of jungle and formulated his own take on the Amen break using jungle's methods. It has nothing to do with the differences in the number of releases between him and Equinox. I think what Equinox means in that interview is that he respects the way Squarepusher can edit his beats so insanely. Equinox and a lot of U.S producers are all about the drum patterns so that makes sense.
Equinox is leading the way along with Breakage with keeping the amens in jungle. They are both at the top of the UK jungle/d&b scene in this respect. Soundmurderer isn't really. Equinox and Breakage make tracks which pay respect to the old sound that was created by their fellow people. But they also keep their sound fresh and in tune with the pulse of jungle in this era. Soundmurderer, while good at replicating the ragga element of old, plays a far smaller part in the jungle/d&b scene. Why? Rekindling the ragga element is nothing new, there have always been tracks based on that style throughout every year of jungle/d&b. Especially the rise of the dubwise sound from 2000 onwards. Soundmurderer's tracks don't really get played here in the UK because they don't sound right sitting next to a Breakage tune. They would stick out in a set a little. The production just isn't there yet. Listen to the latest Equinox radio show on this thread and ask yourself where a Soundmurderer tune would fit in without sounding a little corny.
I think the difference between Soundmurderer's way of doing things and and people like the Inperspective or Bassbin style producers is that his music is a bit more of a novelty thing. It is something different and exciting to make people dance to, in a country that wasn't exposed to jungle fully back in the day. The ragga jungle the Brits played many years ago is still fresh there in the US. Maybe that is where our difference of opinion comes from? 94 style ragga jungle has great rhythm and a certain soul to it that is not often found in recent American music. Not surprising that it's appealing to the more musically minded of you. No wonder thousands of kids want to reproduce it.
It would be nice to slow things up and get those days back but for us, maybe it isn't viable with respect to how far the music has come in our country.
Soundmurderer is also famed for mixing 60 tracks in 70 mins etc. From my perspective this completely loses the vibe that appreciating each track can bring. Every old tune was a story, a statement, a work of art. Why mash them into a sea of noise? Its a novelty factor for the average joe punter in a club who enjoys a quick fix. In my opinion people like Hype and Andy C tarnished our scene here by providing for those type of people later in the 90s. 4 deck mixing, comedy scratching etc. Tsk. (The need for money took over the love for the music in their case.)
Great new artists like Mutt or BigBud are well respected within the scene because of their willingness to be a part of it. They make tracks which pay a dutiful nod to the old sound whilst staying fresh. In my opinion Soundmurderer has the potential but he doesn't go with the flow like Mutt or Big Bud, or Mathematics, or Will Miles, or Seba, or Redeyes, or Martyn, or all the countless others from other countries who are becoming a success in jungle/d&b.
- Chairman of The Anti Clownstep Organisation -
www.myspace.com/burnratestudios
www.musicv2.com/artist/burnrate
|
|
|
| Author |
RE: THE BEST OF THE NEW SCHOOL |
GRITTY
Administrator
Posts: 427
Joined: 27.01.06 |
|
nice write...Although I didnt realy say that the differences were anything to do with how many releases squarepusher or equinox had..
I meant that equinox comes from the core... From within jungle where as these other guys ,however creative they are come from outside with a reinterpretation...Most of that stuff has never been played at jungle raves...It would have more of a home on the same bill as portishead or fatboy slim..lol.bigbeat boutique shit...A lot of the time it actually sounds like theyre taking the piss..
Have to admit tho I'm more likely to draw a soundmurderer tune (as long as it has riddim)like lockitoff or limb by limb than most drumfunk styles but I wouldnt play em next to acid rain or summing coz the sound would drop away into a flat mush with no bass lol......
Your right about influence man NWA..Public Enemy whoever ...Its an endless list of American and Jamaican musical heretage. |
|
|
| Author |
RE: THE BEST OF THE NEW SCHOOL |
mirage
Member
Posts: 510
Location: Chi
Joined: 29.05.06 |
|
i love that limb by limb remix ;x tru dat.
my aim = mirage
my email = [email protected]
my schlong = small
www.myspace.com/welldamnryan |
|
|
| Author |
RE: THE BEST OF THE NEW SCHOOL |
Die Verse Soul
Member
Posts: 240
Location: Near Philly
Joined: 05.05.06 |
|
Nice thread, OJ. Haven't been on in 2 weeks...
"Some of the sets are a bit hit and miss because I added them to provide a bit of variety."
Well, I can contribute the Devil's variety. Was gonna start a darkstep thread myself, but figured I'd be lonely in there. I'll throw some shit up that I've found in the past couple months. I'm sure out of 3,400 members, some will be interested. I just like the mean shit. What can I say? A lot of you started out Punk; I started out Metal. From my first days in 98 or so I was much more appealed to the hip hop jungle coming in, and the mean shit that was surfacing. LoL...I'll throw some shit up shortly, just for the fuck of it...
http://www.myspace.com/mrjunglist
Soulseek User Name: Die Verse |
|
| Author |
RE: THE BEST OF THE NEW SCHOOL |
Die Verse Soul
Member
Posts: 240
Location: Near Philly
Joined: 05.05.06 |
|
OH...and how the hell was Soulslinger not mentioned in your "argument"? LMAO, I personally love me some Soulslinger and Squarepusher, when I'm in the mood. It is rare though, once every three months or so when I feel like rattling the gears loose in my brain.
http://www.myspace.com/mrjunglist
Soulseek User Name: Die Verse
Edited by Die Verse Soul on 02/13/2007 |
|
|
| Author |
RE: THE BEST OF THE NEW SCHOOL |
Die Verse Soul
Member
Posts: 240
Location: Near Philly
Joined: 05.05.06 |
|
I'll start with this...there's a pretty ridiculous variety...'bout 25% of 'em have tracklists...Hopefully no one posted this already, haven't been on in a minute and hadn't the time yet to go through the threads...I'll up some shit later, as for now, school work calls. 
(OK yea...after posting this I had a bit of deja vu when I was scrolling through it. It strikes me that Klassik might've posted something about this a few months ago. If so, credits are his. Nonetheless, all of the links I've hit up, still work. That "Cause 4 Concern - Stu Mix 1/06" is not to be slept on.)
http://drumnbassrepository.net/dnbmixes2.htm
DELETED THE ARCHIVE LISTING HERE CUZ IT'S A THREAD HOG. A LOT OF EVOL INTENT, BAILEY, COUNTERSTRIKE, DIESELBOY, ED RUSH & OPTICAL, NOISIA, LIMEWAX, VICIOUS CIRCLE, BLAH BLAH BLAH. PEEP IT...
http://www.myspace.com/mrjunglist
Soulseek User Name: Die Verse
Edited by Die Verse Soul on 02/13/2007 |
|
|
| Author |
RE: THE BEST OF THE NEW SCHOOL |
BurnRate
Administrator
| | | |
